Would this work in place of a gas powered generator?
Jan 11, 2010 by buddy_holly_1959 | Posted in Other - Cars & Transportation
I am planning to modify a retired school bus for a road trip to Burning Man, and i am not planning to do a full camperization, virtuous removing the seats, popping a bed at the end in front of the exit, bringing in a primary couch, and building a short shelving unit the number of the way along the walls. I am not planning to do wiring in the walls or anything like that for chew ins, as i'm looking to be able to be able to easily modify it as needed for multiple purposes. I have an older 360 watt audio amplifier i'm looking to run on a semi-annual basis, along with some Christmas lights or tube lights around the exclusive of the bus and the outdoor shelter for lighting at night, plus rationed use/charging of a laptop, and the spare blender for mixing drinks. From my time reading survival and first timer's guides, gas generators are frowned upon for their blasting and environmental impact, plus needing somewhere to store the power (batteries), and nuclear fuel to run it. My thought for an alternative power source Is purchase a solar panel run charger
( http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/ Auto/SolarPortablePower/SolarEnergy/PRDO VR~0111894P/1W%2BPowersports%2BSolar%2BC harger.jsp, or http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/scan/4/ Auto/SolarPortablePower/SolarEnergy/PRDO VR~0111896P/Sunforce%2B30W%2BSolar%2BPan el.jsp )
wired to the denomination bus's battery(ies), to keep them continually topped up. I would wire in an inverter (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/look over/4/ Auto/SolarPortablePower/Inverters/PRDOVR ~0111871P/Xantrex%2BXpower%2BInverters.j sp ) either through the cigarette lighter refuge or directly to the battery. I would then plug my devices (stereo, lights, blender, laptops) into the inverter to run them. I would departure the solar panel out at all times, as it is the desert and there is plenty of full view.
Here is a rough diagram of what i have in mind: http://bigpappasmurf666.deviantart.com/a rt/wiring-diagram-150130450
Dismal for the long story, but if you've made it this far, I thank you. These are my questions:
1: Will a solar panel be accomplished to keep the battery topped up?
2: Will it charge it fast enough to insure approximately uninterrupted power to the inverter?
3: What should the minimum Wattage rating on the solar panel be?
4: Should I wire the inverted completely to the battery or run it through the lighter socket.?
5: My stereo amp is rated at 360watts, so should I go with at least a 500watt inverter, or should I get a 1000 or 1500 watt inverter?
6: How want will the battery last once the sun goes down?
7: If the battery does go dead, will it automatically recharge once the sun rises and hits the solar panel, or will it have to be especially booted?
8: What about a 2nd or 3rd battery?, Battery bank?
9: Any extra components I'll have need of to purchase? (meters, regulators, surge protectors, etc)
10: Any other ideas?
I could always equitable pick up a generator, it would run about the same price as this set up, but then i'd have to worry about purchasing fossil, the environmental impacts, and the special measures required to leave alone annoying neighbors with it's noise. Plus this way i can have power wherever I go, without much preparation / planning. Base for the long post, but I'm new to vehicular electrical systems, and will have friends with adventure to help me set it up, but i wanted to check here to see if it's even possible. Thanks for the facilitate and advice.
~buddyholly1959
thanks for your support and advice. The debate with I'd like to go solar for burning man is that the bank of batteries can afflict the whole day so there is no worry about them going dead at night, as I would have to limit my generator management to about an hour or two a day, and if i fire it up in the morning to recharge after the overnight usage, unless I fire it up later in the day, it will be hardened by night, if not noon. With solar I could set it up and let it charge silently all day. The pick up idea would not work, as the wind is really inconsistent on the playa, If the twine gets up to a decent speed, that's not a good thing. My stable camp ground is in a valley, so there is not much for wind down there.
yes, a generator would be an chance, but not a viable one, as I am unable to run one continuously, no matter how advanced they are, as 1: i'm gonna be driving down from canada, so my only options would be to either illuminate it all with me, or spend my canadian money in the stats, with a ~ 10c harm, and 2: it would be impossible to safely store enough fuel on the playa, as trips in to down tariff 10$ and only occur a few times a day.
Also, i'm gonna be going with a organization of around 10 people, so the bus will already be filled with water bottles and rations, as we'd rather not get gouged by the exchange rate when buying 1000 bottles of bottled water, plus enough food to feed 10 people for a week.
note - in the first part of my last update, i'm talking about gasoline
reorganize: the blender use will be minimal, if at all, i'm just thinking in a "what if" site. The main purpose for the power will be for the lights at night, and, to a lesser (and by any means un-necessary) extent (as I have a portable boom box that's pretty merit on d batteries (2/2.5 days of 8/9/more hours a day use on one set of batteries) which would be adequate. With your guy's advice, plus reading some reviews of the solar panel i've got my eye on, that i'm just now gonna run the lights off the batteries at night, and charge the laptop during the day
It's 2 am here, so deplorable if some of my posts don't make sense. lol
The solar panel will business nicely to keep the batteries topped, but will probably not be able to run much completely. Look-up solar panels, and calculate the wattage they can draw compared the the square feet of surface, & I think you'll see that a solar panel to keep-up with a blender would be prodigious. You'll probably end-up with a generator and the solar panels. The more batteries you have, the longer they will last. For that job, depending on how much $$$ you demand to spend, the dry-cell car batteries would be best, because they don't have any liquid acid in them to milksop if you tip them over. The generators are getting better, too. Look at a generator built for an RV, at an RV distributor. In fact, the RV dealer could have info on solar panels, also.
rick29148 | Jan 12, 2010